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	<title>Comments on: Why I Don&#8217;t Like &quot;Mad Men&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: broseph</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2010/01/why-i-dont-like-mad-men/comment-page-1#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>broseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Men is an arrogant and cliched show and it sucks. Plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Men is an arrogant and cliched show and it sucks. Plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: greg olet</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg olet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i will keep it short.  i suspect people who love this are:
1) being distracted by the visuals and set pieces.  
2)they are likely very easily entertained 
3)this particular period or industry is very relevant to them.
outside of that i can say one thing that is fact. when you are writing for the screen one of the main fundamentals is that something huge must happen around 10 minutes into the story.  pilots tend to be more under the rules of film, as you should be considering you have to grab the audience quickly and glue them to the chair.
in that respect, this is a complete and utter failure.  you could write 1000 versions of this same story and 999 would go in the trash by a professional reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i will keep it short.  i suspect people who love this are:<br />
1) being distracted by the visuals and set pieces.<br />
2)they are likely very easily entertained<br />
3)this particular period or industry is very relevant to them.<br />
outside of that i can say one thing that is fact. when you are writing for the screen one of the main fundamentals is that something huge must happen around 10 minutes into the story.  pilots tend to be more under the rules of film, as you should be considering you have to grab the audience quickly and glue them to the chair.<br />
in that respect, this is a complete and utter failure.  you could write 1000 versions of this same story and 999 would go in the trash by a professional reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 05:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this page. I recently netflixed my way through the first two seasons and now poked my way randomly at episodes of 3 and 4. I don&#039;t like to call people dumb but this is disturbing in how one dimensional these characters are. So much so that one can only conclude that the writers really don&#039;t have much to say other than a cursory feeling for the fashions and Wikipedia references to history. One could make a case that this time was exciting, that everything in this show could possibly have an undercurrent worth exploring. The early 60&#039;s were a fulcrum that hurled us into the present time. Instead, its just surface and again, its clear the producers can&#039;t get below the surface because they are as one dimensional as the characters they have created. For an episode or two in 1963,Kennedy and Dylan, I thought it might break open. Instead its more Draper and sex. What I don&#039;t get especially is what anyone sees in Draper as an ad man. Surely someone in that profession would have an interest in the culture, in history, in the times. Instead his pitch meetings are idiotic pronouncements about human nature. No wonder he will never develop anything of quality in his ad campaigns like the VW ads in the first episode. As weird as it was, 30 Something and its ad men at least reflected the angst of the times and the writers who created it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this page. I recently netflixed my way through the first two seasons and now poked my way randomly at episodes of 3 and 4. I don&#8217;t like to call people dumb but this is disturbing in how one dimensional these characters are. So much so that one can only conclude that the writers really don&#8217;t have much to say other than a cursory feeling for the fashions and Wikipedia references to history. One could make a case that this time was exciting, that everything in this show could possibly have an undercurrent worth exploring. The early 60&#8242;s were a fulcrum that hurled us into the present time. Instead, its just surface and again, its clear the producers can&#8217;t get below the surface because they are as one dimensional as the characters they have created. For an episode or two in 1963,Kennedy and Dylan, I thought it might break open. Instead its more Draper and sex. What I don&#8217;t get especially is what anyone sees in Draper as an ad man. Surely someone in that profession would have an interest in the culture, in history, in the times. Instead his pitch meetings are idiotic pronouncements about human nature. No wonder he will never develop anything of quality in his ad campaigns like the VW ads in the first episode. As weird as it was, 30 Something and its ad men at least reflected the angst of the times and the writers who created it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever write a post on the internet and continue to regret it for months afterwards? I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever write a post on the internet and continue to regret it for months afterwards? I have.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 01:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Men is a terrible show, all around. I don&#039;t feel like I need to give any reasons, that is my opinion and I won&#039;t change it or feel guilty for saying the show sucks. It sucks, and everyone who likes it is stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Men is a terrible show, all around. I don&#8217;t feel like I need to give any reasons, that is my opinion and I won&#8217;t change it or feel guilty for saying the show sucks. It sucks, and everyone who likes it is stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Lame-o</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2010/01/why-i-dont-like-mad-men/comment-page-1#comment-4034</link>
		<dc:creator>Lame-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 00:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Men is male fantasy, period. It pretends to be poo-pooing how narrow-minded and bigoted everyone was back in the bad old days, but then it forces us to ogle Amazonian pin-up secretaries and watch women, blacks, and Jews be either &quot;put in their place&quot; or tokenized over and over. Don Draper is obviously presented like an Everyman for male audience members to identify with. He&#039;s always laying the smack down on somebody, but what he&#039;s saying isn&#039;t actually that profound. He&#039;s also shown repeatedly reigning in the other rabid white men in his office by giving them the straight talk- not because it&#039;s wrong to be bigoted sexist pr*cks, but because slick businessmen know better. He&#039;s not as smart or as appealing as the show wants us to believe he is... especially not if you&#039;re not a white male viewer.

Unless the show is *really* about how little things have actually changed- and I don&#039;t think it is- it&#039;s the worst kind of middle-brow high budget prime time soap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Men is male fantasy, period. It pretends to be poo-pooing how narrow-minded and bigoted everyone was back in the bad old days, but then it forces us to ogle Amazonian pin-up secretaries and watch women, blacks, and Jews be either &#8220;put in their place&#8221; or tokenized over and over. Don Draper is obviously presented like an Everyman for male audience members to identify with. He&#8217;s always laying the smack down on somebody, but what he&#8217;s saying isn&#8217;t actually that profound. He&#8217;s also shown repeatedly reigning in the other rabid white men in his office by giving them the straight talk- not because it&#8217;s wrong to be bigoted sexist pr*cks, but because slick businessmen know better. He&#8217;s not as smart or as appealing as the show wants us to believe he is&#8230; especially not if you&#8217;re not a white male viewer.</p>
<p>Unless the show is *really* about how little things have actually changed- and I don&#8217;t think it is- it&#8217;s the worst kind of middle-brow high budget prime time soap.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/Agreed

&quot;Mad Men&quot; is more overrated than AMC&#039;s other pseudo-hit &quot;Breaking Bad.&quot;  In reality, in an era when &quot;Glee&quot; is considered a cultural masterpiece, anything resembling a thought-provoking show is immediately praised.  But the truth is &quot;Mad Men&quot; sucks, and ten years from now no one will remember it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/Agreed</p>
<p>&#8220;Mad Men&#8221; is more overrated than AMC&#8217;s other pseudo-hit &#8220;Breaking Bad.&#8221;  In reality, in an era when &#8220;Glee&#8221; is considered a cultural masterpiece, anything resembling a thought-provoking show is immediately praised.  But the truth is &#8220;Mad Men&#8221; sucks, and ten years from now no one will remember it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to this page by googling &quot;Mad Men sucks&quot;.  I&#039;m mostly through season one and I don&#039;t like it either, for precisely the same reasons you elaborated on.  Well said, and I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to this page by googling &#8220;Mad Men sucks&#8221;.  I&#8217;m mostly through season one and I don&#8217;t like it either, for precisely the same reasons you elaborated on.  Well said, and I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 05:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, found this page by Googling &quot;Mad Men sucks&quot; and I completely agree with your assessment.  And count me in on the LOST love.  The question is, what will I watch now that Mad Men didn&#039;t pan out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, found this page by Googling &#8220;Mad Men sucks&#8221; and I completely agree with your assessment.  And count me in on the LOST love.  The question is, what will I watch now that Mad Men didn&#8217;t pan out?</p>
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		<title>By: MMHater and proud of it</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMHater and proud of it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually just saw this site after doing a search &quot;Mad Men Sucks&quot;.  I just watched the first season.  I was recently in an advertising class in an MBA program and became curious because my professor and other students thought the show was &quot;the bomb.&quot;

Yeah, it&#039;s the bomb if you are a man who has not matured and wish for a fantasty life of doing whatever the hell you want and if you are a man with no ethics and morality in life.

Yeah, it&#039;s the bomb if you are a head case of a woman who will take love anywhere you can get it, i.e., a married man or a woman who thinks she needs to have sex to move up in the world.

I seriously drank a few drinks and smoked an entire pack of cigarettes trying to figure out why the hell it won so many awards.  Our society surly has not grown in any way if we are applauding a bunch of screwed up people who are so narcissistic, desperate, unethical and down right pathetic.  These are not role models, these are messed up people who need their asses kicked.  I was so angry and depressed after getting through the first season because it was more of a reminder of how I feel there is no hope for good people like me and/or good women like me in this world, and the realization that it is only getting worse.  I won&#039;t even get into how the show reaffirms how the world still thinks of women behind closed doors.

As far as the advertising aspect.  There is nothing there.  Just a bunch of scenes where Don Draper saves the day by thinking a bit differently than everyone else.  Big deal!  There is so much more to advertising and the show doesn&#039;t even touch on any of it.  I just love when Draper has loyalt to a client when he hasn&#039;t a loyal bone in his body otherwise.  What a loser.

All in all, I feel the show is a worthless piece of ____ that should be banned from television along with all the other stupid reality shows and shows that have no positive influence or that have no morals, ethics and intelligence.

Too bad we cannot have more shows like LOST.  That show was intelligent, meaningful, and brilliantly written.  Unless of course you were only into the mystery and believe in nothing.  I am sure those people were a bit disappointed.

As for Mad Men, I am not a violent person, but part of me hopes that the man falling from the building in the beginning credits is a foreshadowing of the ending of this piece of crap series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually just saw this site after doing a search &#8220;Mad Men Sucks&#8221;.  I just watched the first season.  I was recently in an advertising class in an MBA program and became curious because my professor and other students thought the show was &#8220;the bomb.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the bomb if you are a man who has not matured and wish for a fantasty life of doing whatever the hell you want and if you are a man with no ethics and morality in life.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the bomb if you are a head case of a woman who will take love anywhere you can get it, i.e., a married man or a woman who thinks she needs to have sex to move up in the world.</p>
<p>I seriously drank a few drinks and smoked an entire pack of cigarettes trying to figure out why the hell it won so many awards.  Our society surly has not grown in any way if we are applauding a bunch of screwed up people who are so narcissistic, desperate, unethical and down right pathetic.  These are not role models, these are messed up people who need their asses kicked.  I was so angry and depressed after getting through the first season because it was more of a reminder of how I feel there is no hope for good people like me and/or good women like me in this world, and the realization that it is only getting worse.  I won&#8217;t even get into how the show reaffirms how the world still thinks of women behind closed doors.</p>
<p>As far as the advertising aspect.  There is nothing there.  Just a bunch of scenes where Don Draper saves the day by thinking a bit differently than everyone else.  Big deal!  There is so much more to advertising and the show doesn&#8217;t even touch on any of it.  I just love when Draper has loyalt to a client when he hasn&#8217;t a loyal bone in his body otherwise.  What a loser.</p>
<p>All in all, I feel the show is a worthless piece of ____ that should be banned from television along with all the other stupid reality shows and shows that have no positive influence or that have no morals, ethics and intelligence.</p>
<p>Too bad we cannot have more shows like LOST.  That show was intelligent, meaningful, and brilliantly written.  Unless of course you were only into the mystery and believe in nothing.  I am sure those people were a bit disappointed.</p>
<p>As for Mad Men, I am not a violent person, but part of me hopes that the man falling from the building in the beginning credits is a foreshadowing of the ending of this piece of crap series.</p>
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