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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2007/11/you-had-me-at-bienvenido/#comment-12664</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I read this comment thread back when I was in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I read this comment thread back when I was in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2007/11/you-had-me-at-bienvenido/#comment-12649</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How ’bout taking some responsibility for your actions?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Asks the guy who leaves anonymous contents on blogs under the assumed name of a TV pig.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was just a business decision; nothing personal. They saw that the IPhone was going to be a success, so they could spread the R&#038;D fixed costs over a wider group. They probably negotiated with their suppliers, so their variable costs were down. They could see that if they dropped the price by a third then their sales rate would double, which it did. That means that the December buying season, which doesn’t start until after Thanksgiving, will likely be between three and four million iPhones sold.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Or in other words, they overcharged for the phone. I'm unapologetically an Apple zealot, but even I don't believe they have the power to change the English language. And I don't know how "they dropped unit prices to increase sales once they saw how many people would buy the phone at its initial price" translates into anything other than "they charged more than they needed during the first two months of release."

Unless it's the same translator where an interview with Steve Jobs' saying "That's computers for ya! Suck it up, chumps!" followed the next day by "We're still totally right in our pricing scheme, but here's a store credit for half of what you overpaid, to buy some more stuff from us and maybe that'll shut you up" is magically changed to an "apology" and a gracious "gift."

&lt;blockquote&gt;Stacks is more than useless - it has taken away the very useful functionality of storing nested folders in the dock and being able to right click (or click-and-hold) to drill down many levels into subfolders. Many of us depend on that functionality - I can’t upgrade until it’s restored.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, I've seen this mentioned in several reviews of Leopard, but those mentions lamenting its disappearance were the first time I ever knew it even existed. Was it ever a documented feature? In any case, I'd have a hard time citing that alone as a reason not to upgrade, but of course everybody's experience with the OS is going to be different.

Stacks is a case of a semi-good intention taking precedence over actual usability, much like the first iteration of Spotlight was. The only thing "neat" about it is the fan, and for most folders, you're going to have too much stuff inside to see the fan. Still, I'd be pretty surprised if there aren't already third-party add-ons to give a drill-down menu on a folder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How ’bout taking some responsibility for your actions?!</p></blockquote>
<p>Asks the guy who leaves anonymous contents on blogs under the assumed name of a TV pig.</p>
<blockquote><p>It was just a business decision; nothing personal. They saw that the IPhone was going to be a success, so they could spread the R&#038;D fixed costs over a wider group. They probably negotiated with their suppliers, so their variable costs were down. They could see that if they dropped the price by a third then their sales rate would double, which it did. That means that the December buying season, which doesn’t start until after Thanksgiving, will likely be between three and four million iPhones sold.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or in other words, they overcharged for the phone. I&#8217;m unapologetically an Apple zealot, but even I don&#8217;t believe they have the power to change the English language. And I don&#8217;t know how &#8220;they dropped unit prices to increase sales once they saw how many people would buy the phone at its initial price&#8221; translates into anything other than &#8220;they charged more than they needed during the first two months of release.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s the same translator where an interview with Steve Jobs&#8217; saying &#8220;That&#8217;s computers for ya! Suck it up, chumps!&#8221; followed the next day by &#8220;We&#8217;re still totally right in our pricing scheme, but here&#8217;s a store credit for half of what you overpaid, to buy some more stuff from us and maybe that&#8217;ll shut you up&#8221; is magically changed to an &#8220;apology&#8221; and a gracious &#8220;gift.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Stacks is more than useless - it has taken away the very useful functionality of storing nested folders in the dock and being able to right click (or click-and-hold) to drill down many levels into subfolders. Many of us depend on that functionality - I can’t upgrade until it’s restored.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve seen this mentioned in several reviews of Leopard, but those mentions lamenting its disappearance were the first time I ever knew it even existed. Was it ever a documented feature? In any case, I&#8217;d have a hard time citing that alone as a reason not to upgrade, but of course everybody&#8217;s experience with the OS is going to be different.</p>
<p>Stacks is a case of a semi-good intention taking precedence over actual usability, much like the first iteration of Spotlight was. The only thing &#8220;neat&#8221; about it is the fan, and for most folders, you&#8217;re going to have too much stuff inside to see the fan. Still, I&#8217;d be pretty surprised if there aren&#8217;t already third-party add-ons to give a drill-down menu on a folder.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy R.</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2007/11/you-had-me-at-bienvenido/#comment-12648</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"CoverFlow in the finder, and the “stacks” on the Dock, are a little useless, but don’t get in the way, either." 

Stacks is more than useless - it has taken away the very useful functionality of storing nested folders in the dock and being able to right click (or click-and-hold) to drill down many levels into subfolders. Many of us depend on that functionality - I can't upgrade until it's restored. 

Other than that, I really like Leopard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CoverFlow in the finder, and the “stacks” on the Dock, are a little useless, but don’t get in the way, either.&#8221; </p>
<p>Stacks is more than useless - it has taken away the very useful functionality of storing nested folders in the dock and being able to right click (or click-and-hold) to drill down many levels into subfolders. Many of us depend on that functionality - I can&#8217;t upgrade until it&#8217;s restored. </p>
<p>Other than that, I really like Leopard.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.spectrecollie.com/archives/2007/11/you-had-me-at-bienvenido/#comment-12646</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's time to let the iPhone price drop go, Chuck. Apple didn't intentionally try to embarrass you people who overpaid. 

It was just a business decision; nothing personal. They saw that the IPhone was going to be a success, so they could spread the R&#38;D fixed costs over a wider group. They probably negotiated with their suppliers, so their variable costs were down. They could see that if they dropped the price by a third then their sales rate would double, which it did. That means that the December buying season, which doesn't start until after Thanksgiving, will likely be between three and four million iPhones sold. How could they pass that up?

Hanging onto resentments is childish. Steve Jobs apologized and gave you a gift that he wasn't require to give. What else would you expect of him? Crawl on his knees? Not likely? Let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time to let the iPhone price drop go, Chuck. Apple didn&#8217;t intentionally try to embarrass you people who overpaid. </p>
<p>It was just a business decision; nothing personal. They saw that the IPhone was going to be a success, so they could spread the R&amp;D fixed costs over a wider group. They probably negotiated with their suppliers, so their variable costs were down. They could see that if they dropped the price by a third then their sales rate would double, which it did. That means that the December buying season, which doesn&#8217;t start until after Thanksgiving, will likely be between three and four million iPhones sold. How could they pass that up?</p>
<p>Hanging onto resentments is childish. Steve Jobs apologized and gave you a gift that he wasn&#8217;t require to give. What else would you expect of him? Crawl on his knees? Not likely? Let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Ziffel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold Ziffel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 01:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple over charged you for your iPhone??  No.  You paid the price for it all on your very own.  They were gracious enough to give you a rebate, but in no way did Apple overcharge you nor anyone else.  How 'bout taking some responsibility for your actions?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple over charged you for your iPhone??  No.  You paid the price for it all on your very own.  They were gracious enough to give you a rebate, but in no way did Apple overcharge you nor anyone else.  How &#8217;bout taking some responsibility for your actions?!</p>
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